Success of the "Looking for a Guild" thread? - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

.neuronster. · Jun 19, 2006, 11:38 AM // 11:38

I only posted mine a few days ago. And I haven't had any guild contact me yet. I guess it just takes time. :|

M1h4iL · Jun 19, 2006, 12:31 PM // 12:31

I find that thread rather useless, I tried it once or twice with no success, then I went to: http://www.guild-hall.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=21 and looked through the various guilds and now I am in a pretty good guild, was a very useful site for when I was looking for a guild.

Kaguya · Jun 19, 2006, 01:15 PM // 13:15

Well after I posted some time ago, I received ~4 replies.. Too bad the guild I actually joined died after couple of weeks :P

DevilStick · Jun 19, 2006, 02:16 PM // 14:16

To neuronmonster and M1h4iL - it may be that your criteria were specific and/or selective enough that guilds monitoring the thread didn't think you would be interested. That's not a bad thing, in that you aren't wasting your time with a guild that doesn't suit you.

In addition to the thread M1h4iL pointed out, GWG has a guild database. That's the GWG equivalent I think.

DeanBB · Jun 19, 2006, 05:16 PM // 17:16

The more stringent your requirements are the fewer responses you will get. WPG is a PvE guild so I don't bother sending a PM to people that are primarily PvP or want a combo of PvP and PvE. Those that want a PvE guild just for farming also won't hear from me.

Other than that, someone looking for PvE will get a PM from me unless they specify only EU or something like that. We're international so I will send a PM to those if it looks like a good fit but I do specify that we have a majority of NA players in the guild so hopefully there are no false impressions up front.

We add 3-4 players per week I'd say, with 6 last week plus a guild looking to ally with us.

.neuronster. · Jun 19, 2006, 09:22 PM // 21:22

That explains it. Mine is very specific. Only because I can never find the right guild for me. :\ Maybe I shouldn't be so picky/demanding.

Snograt · Jun 20, 2006, 02:32 AM // 02:32

I've sent guild invites to 6 people on the thread over the last three days and no response yet.

Still time I guess

There's also the problem with people not updating the thread when they find a guild. Also, if you post in the Looking for a Guild? thread, PLEASE remove whatever guild name is in your profile or people will assume that you HAVE found a guild (not always true!)

.neuronster. · Jun 20, 2006, 02:35 AM // 02:35

OMG! That could be a problem. Thanks for that suggestion. *removes guild name*

Forbes · Jun 20, 2006, 04:05 AM // 04:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by .neuronster.

OMG! That could be a problem. Thanks for that suggestion. *removes guild name*

As guild leader myself (as well as recruiter). Your post is very specific, maybe a little too much. I also have a feeling (my guild is PvE,so I wouldn't know), that you are looking for a more PvP-centric guild, and they tend to be smaller than your +30 active members. Just a thought.

.neuronster. · Jun 20, 2006, 11:43 AM // 11:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forbes

As guild leader myself (as well as recruiter). Your post is very specific, maybe a little too much. I also have a feeling (my guild is PvE,so I wouldn't know), that you are looking for a more PvP-centric guild, and they tend to be smaller than your +30 active members. Just a thought.

I'd like more of a PvE guild. But PvP is just a bonus. Perhaps your guild is right for me...? PM me we details! :O

Mr Urthadar · Jun 20, 2006, 02:20 PM // 14:20

Guild wars is all about guilds. (duhh). I think anet dropped the ball when it comes to the `guild building' aspect of the game. Recruiting people is such a pain, that it sometimes does not seem worth the effort.

What anet *ought* to do, is to have some sort of `recruitment' interface on their website. Or maybe a http://recruit.guildwars.com domain.

Why should they do this?

1) They (anet) have *all* of a guilds info available - member count, activity status, etc.

2) They have everyone's character / account info.

3) They have *everyones* `login' info.

The 3 points above gives them enough information to create a very powerful recruiting system. I'll describe how the recruitment process could work ->

Joe Blow is looking for a guild. He is a hybrid player PvE / PvP that is looking for a hybrid guild that GvG's regularly. He also wants a guild that has had at least 15 members active in the past 2 days.

[FoK] guild is a hybrid PvE / PvP guild looking for members. FoK has been GvG'ng a bit lately and is just short a couple of a consistent team. They have had 15 members active in the past 2 days.

With all of the data available to anet, they can easily match up players to guilds based on the potential guildie's criteria. That is, FoK could be matched up to Joe Blow.

Even better, is that the recruiting guild can look at the potential new guildie's stats. Hmm, that guy only has 20k balth faction, probably won't work.

The beauty of this all is that no one has to create an account - just use your GW login. This could make finding a guild so much easier. Anet could even allow you to accept a recruit right from the web page.

Of course, this would be a lot more work then I make it out to be. But, honestly, it's not a monumentous programming effort. Well, at least we can dream.

It probably would not take much to build a community site to handle this type of transaction. User enters a guild criteria, gets back a list of guilds, and sends a message to the guilds he is interested in. The only down fall is that the community site *would not* have access to character or guild information. So there is no way to validate guilds or guildies. But really, anything is better than surfing a LFG thread.

ju

DeanBB · Jun 20, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19

Please don't take this as picking on you or anyone, I just saw your new/updated "pick me" post so thought I'd comment on it and this seemed like a good place to do so. I'm hoping this helps someone to find a guild, helps them to think about what is listed for their requirements.

The list of "requirements" for the guild being sought after:

??? Maturity <--- Agreed, important, how do you know for sure from a guild invite?

??? Must be Luxon <--- Why exactly does this matter? Your individual characters can interact with either side. Are you wanting to faction farm? Own a town?

??? Must have a steady and standing alliance <--- For what? Do you want to own a town? Why is alliance important?

??? Must be very helpful <--- Yes, but how do you know for sure?

??? Member count doesn't matter, just a decent amount would be nice <--- Kinda conflicts with being in an alliance, it seems. I'd think the idea of the alliance is for a larger pool of people to team with?

??? Must have a fairly decent rank (Not that big of a deal) <--- This is mutually exclusive with the PvE requirement, there is no rank for a PvE guild

??? Must be stable <--- Yes, but again, hard to tell?

??? 16+ age group guild (Or at least have mature people. Not all 16+ are mature. :P) <--- I'd leave it with the "mature" requirement above. Guys play girls and girls play guys and who knows how old people are in GW?

??? PvE (PvP and GvG and AB are welcome as well, but isn't too important) <--- see above for Rank comment. This is a good way to list it, your priority is PvE and you have some casual interest in the PvP side, seems clear to me.

??? Team Speak (not that important) <--- Is this a generic chat system comment or are you excluding Vent?

??? Website/Forum (Its good to read updates and just random stuff from the guild and about the guild) <--- These last 3 are good, basic requirements and a website/forum can be a big help in deciding if a guild is right for you if you can browse through the guildies discussions. It should help alleviate some of the above concerns with maturity, helpfulness, etc.

??? Cape
??? Guild hall

__________________________________________________ ____________

Ultimately I think people need to learn what they can about a guild either through a web site/forum or chatting with a recruiter and then give them a try. It should not cost anything to join a guild or be a part of a guild and so if it doesn't work out for playing times, attitudes, Prophecies vs Factions, PvE vs PvP, etc then you can leave and try another. Letting the leadership know you are leaving would be good, perhaps they can work on correcting whatever the issue was that caused you to leave.

Jun 19, 2006, 11:38 AM // 11:38	#21
.neuronster. Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: My house. Guild: Grenth's Rejects [GR] Profession: E/Mo	I only posted mine a few days ago. And I haven't had any guild contact me yet. I guess it just takes time. :\|

Jun 19, 2006, 12:31 PM // 12:31	#22
M1h4iL Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Perth, Australia	I find that thread rather useless, I tried it once or twice with no success, then I went to: http://www.guild-hall.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=21 and looked through the various guilds and now I am in a pretty good guild, was a very useful site for when I was looking for a guild.

Jun 19, 2006, 01:15 PM // 13:15	#23
Kaguya Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Moon Profession: Mo/	Well after I posted some time ago, I received ~4 replies.. Too bad the guild I actually joined died after couple of weeks :P

Jun 19, 2006, 02:16 PM // 14:16	#24
DevilStick Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: East Coast US	To neuronmonster and M1h4iL - it may be that your criteria were specific and/or selective enough that guilds monitoring the thread didn't think you would be interested. That's not a bad thing, in that you aren't wasting your time with a guild that doesn't suit you. In addition to the thread M1h4iL pointed out, GWG has a guild database. That's the GWG equivalent I think.

Jun 19, 2006, 05:16 PM // 17:16	#25
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	The more stringent your requirements are the fewer responses you will get. WPG is a PvE guild so I don't bother sending a PM to people that are primarily PvP or want a combo of PvP and PvE. Those that want a PvE guild just for farming also won't hear from me. Other than that, someone looking for PvE will get a PM from me unless they specify only EU or something like that. We're international so I will send a PM to those if it looks like a good fit but I do specify that we have a majority of NA players in the guild so hopefully there are no false impressions up front. We add 3-4 players per week I'd say, with 6 last week plus a guild looking to ally with us.

Jun 19, 2006, 09:22 PM // 21:22	#26
.neuronster. Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: My house. Guild: Grenth's Rejects [GR] Profession: E/Mo	That explains it. Mine is very specific. Only because I can never find the right guild for me. :\ Maybe I shouldn't be so picky/demanding.

Jun 20, 2006, 02:32 AM // 02:32	#27
Snograt rattus rattus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST Guild: [GURU]GW [wiki]GW2 Profession: R/	I've sent guild invites to 6 people on the thread over the last three days and no response yet. Still time I guess There's also the problem with people not updating the thread when they find a guild. Also, if you post in the Looking for a Guild? thread, PLEASE remove whatever guild name is in your profile or people will assume that you HAVE found a guild (not always true!)

Jun 20, 2006, 02:35 AM // 02:35	#28
.neuronster. Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: My house. Guild: Grenth's Rejects [GR] Profession: E/Mo	OMG! That could be a problem. Thanks for that suggestion. removes guild name

Jun 20, 2006, 02:20 PM // 14:20	#31
Mr Urthadar Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Fugitives of Kurzick Profession: W/	Guild wars is all about guilds. (duhh). I think anet dropped the ball when it comes to the `guild building' aspect of the game. Recruiting people is such a pain, that it sometimes does not seem worth the effort. What anet ought to do, is to have some sort of `recruitment' interface on their website. Or maybe a http://recruit.guildwars.com domain. Why should they do this? 1) They (anet) have all of a guilds info available - member count, activity status, etc. 2) They have everyone's character / account info. 3) They have everyones `login' info. The 3 points above gives them enough information to create a very powerful recruiting system. I'll describe how the recruitment process could work -> Joe Blow is looking for a guild. He is a hybrid player PvE / PvP that is looking for a hybrid guild that GvG's regularly. He also wants a guild that has had at least 15 members active in the past 2 days. [FoK] guild is a hybrid PvE / PvP guild looking for members. FoK has been GvG'ng a bit lately and is just short a couple of a consistent team. They have had 15 members active in the past 2 days. With all of the data available to anet, they can easily match up players to guilds based on the potential guildie's criteria. That is, FoK could be matched up to Joe Blow. Even better, is that the recruiting guild can look at the potential new guildie's stats. Hmm, that guy only has 20k balth faction, probably won't work. The beauty of this all is that no one has to create an account - just use your GW login. This could make finding a guild so much easier. Anet could even allow you to accept a recruit right from the web page. Of course, this would be a lot more work then I make it out to be. But, honestly, it's not a monumentous programming effort. Well, at least we can dream. It probably would not take much to build a community site to handle this type of transaction. User enters a guild criteria, gets back a list of guilds, and sends a message to the guilds he is interested in. The only down fall is that the community site would not have access to character or guild information. So there is no way to validate guilds or guildies. But really, anything is better than surfing a LFG thread. ju

Jun 20, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19	#32
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	Please don't take this as picking on you or anyone, I just saw your new/updated "pick me" post so thought I'd comment on it and this seemed like a good place to do so. I'm hoping this helps someone to find a guild, helps them to think about what is listed for their requirements. The list of "requirements" for the guild being sought after: ??? Maturity <--- Agreed, important, how do you know for sure from a guild invite? ??? Must be Luxon <--- Why exactly does this matter? Your individual characters can interact with either side. Are you wanting to faction farm? Own a town? ??? Must have a steady and standing alliance <--- For what? Do you want to own a town? Why is alliance important? ??? Must be very helpful <--- Yes, but how do you know for sure? ??? Member count doesn't matter, just a decent amount would be nice <--- Kinda conflicts with being in an alliance, it seems. I'd think the idea of the alliance is for a larger pool of people to team with? ??? Must have a fairly decent rank (Not that big of a deal) <--- This is mutually exclusive with the PvE requirement, there is no rank for a PvE guild ??? Must be stable <--- Yes, but again, hard to tell? ??? 16+ age group guild (Or at least have mature people. Not all 16+ are mature. :P) <--- I'd leave it with the "mature" requirement above. Guys play girls and girls play guys and who knows how old people are in GW? ??? PvE (PvP and GvG and AB are welcome as well, but isn't too important) <--- see above for Rank comment. This is a good way to list it, your priority is PvE and you have some casual interest in the PvP side, seems clear to me. ??? Team Speak (not that important) <--- Is this a generic chat system comment or are you excluding Vent? ??? Website/Forum (Its good to read updates and just random stuff from the guild and about the guild) <--- These last 3 are good, basic requirements and a website/forum can be a big help in deciding if a guild is right for you if you can browse through the guildies discussions. It should help alleviate some of the above concerns with maturity, helpfulness, etc. ??? Cape ??? Guild hall __________________________________________________ ____________ Ultimately I think people need to learn what they can about a guild either through a web site/forum or chatting with a recruiter and then give them a try. It should not cost anything to join a guild or be a part of a guild and so if it doesn't work out for playing times, attitudes, Prophecies vs Factions, PvE vs PvP, etc then you can leave and try another. Letting the leadership know you are leaving would be good, perhaps they can work on correcting whatever the issue was that caused you to leave.